Engine
Capacities
The Rover V8 has been available in a wide variety of capacities from the factory plus
others available from aftermarket tuners. This is usually achieved by using different stroke
cranks in conjunction with the '3.5 litre' bore of 88.9mm diameter or the '3.9 litre' bore
of 93.5mm (early) or 94mm (later). All the dimensions quoted here are in metric for the
sake of consistency, but the engine was originally all imperial (it started life with
a 3.5" bore and 2.8" stroke hence some of the funny metric sizes).
The following cranks are typically available, although this is not an exhaustive list:
- 71.1mm - Standard 3.5/3.9 litre
- 77mm - Used in the factory 4.2
- 80mm - TVR Power amongst others
- 82mm - Latest factory crank for the 4.6 RV8
- 86mm - JE Developments amongst others
- 86.4mm - Real Steel special
- 90mm - TVR Power
Here is a table which shows how the commonly used capacities are reached using these parts.
Note that not many people use the 88.9mm bore:
| 88.9mm | 93.5mm | 94mm |
71.1mm | 3528 | 3905 | 3947 |
77mm | - | 4228 | 4278 |
80mm | - | - | 4444 |
82mm | - | - | 4552 |
86mm | - | - | 4778 |
86.4mm | 4337* | - | 4844* |
90mm | - | - | 5000 |
* - when used with +020 pistons supplied in the Real Steel kit.
Cylinder Heads
There are 4 types of factory cylinder heads for the Rover V8. These are the pre-SD1, the SD1,
the Vitesse, and the RV8 type. There are probably not many pre-SD1 heads in circulation now.
Apart from having more restrictive ports they also had smaller valves. The SD1 and Vitesse
heads come from the same casting and are almost identical. The RV8 heads have bigger
ports but the same sized valves as the SD1 heads. They also have smaller combustion chambers.
This is worth remembering as there are many people selling new 4.6 bottom ends but if these
are used with SD1 type heads the CR will only be around 8.5:1 unless some machining is
carried out. Standard pre-SD1 valves are 38mm inlet and 33mm exhaust. SD1 valves are
40mm inlet and 34mm exhaust, the Vitesse and RV8 having waisted stems. The commonly
used big valves that fit on standard seats are 41.4mm inlet and 35.5mm exhaust. Ultra-big
valves are 43mm inlet and 37mm exhaust. Standard valves can give close to 300HP while race engines
equipped with ultra-big valves can produce approaching 400HP. To reach these power levels the
heads have to be extensively ported.
The other heads available in the UK are special castings from Wildcat Engineering. These
are a completely new casting with much larger, higher ports that have a straighter path to
the cylinder. These heads can be fitted with 49mm inlets and 41mm exhausts. Power outputs
of 400-450HP are easily achievable with these if the rest of the engine is built correctly.
Power Outputs
The Rover V8 seems to be the victim of more bogus power claims than any other engine. Sure
it is big, but it is old fashioned with a particularly poor cylinder head design. This is reflected in the
relatively poor BMEP that can be extracted from these engines. BMEP (Brake Mean Effective
Pressure) is the average pressure exterted on the pistons. It is used by all serious
engineers to compare the efficiency of engines since it does not depend on capacity or rpm. A figure of 140-150psi is considered to
be poor, values of 190+ are very good and the most highly tuned purpose-designed racing
engines such as F3000 produce around 230psi. The standard Rover V8 produces 139psi. Discussion
with a number of Rover V8 tuners, plus study of some engine dyno printouts, reveals that a good road/competition engine will produce
around 165-170psi. Using production based heads only the very best engines (with extensive
porting and very large valves) will produce
170-180psi. OK, this is very esoteric, and few people have the BMEP directly
available for their engines, however look at the formula for BMEP for a 4-stroke engine:
BMEP = Torque (ftlbs) * 2473 / Capacity (cc)
It is obvious that there is a direct relationship between BMEP and torque output per
litre. By plugging the BMEP numbers quoted above in to this formula you can say that
a
standard engine produces 56ftlb/litre, a *good* road/competition engine produces 67-69ftlb/litre
and the very best engines make 69-73ftlb/litre. Bear in mind that these figures are
the peak torque. By the time peak power is reached the engine is operating less efficiently
and torque per litre will have dropped by at least 10%.
As everybody quotes torque and horsepower outputs for their engines it is thus easy to
spot the people peddling bullshit. As an example I know somebody who bought a 3.5 litre
engine that was supposed to make 280HP at 5000rpm. 280HP at 5000rpm is 294ftlb of torque. This
is 83ftlb/litre. From the above you can see that this a ludicrous claim. Sure enough, the
car was a dog and it wasn't long before he was looking for a new engine.
Costs
If you build your own engine and do your own porting then you should be able to build a 220HP
3.5 litre for about £1000. This assumes you need new pistons, a rebore, new bearings, cam, lifters,
valves, inlet manifold and carb.
Most people cannot port cylinder heads and if you buy them from a head shop then the cost for the
220HP 3.5 will rise to around £1500.
A number of the top Rover V8 tuners will build you an engine of around 4.2-4.6 litres that
produces around 270-290HP for about £3500 if it uses a single Holley or modified standard Efi, around £4500
if it uses quad carbs. At this price the engine will still have cast
pistons and standard crank and rods.
Above 300HP the cost goes up exponentially. A tuner-built 5 litre engine with steel rods,
forged pistons, dry sump, throttle bodies and full engine management will set you back
around £9000-£10,000 and will produce around 380-400HP.
© Ian Crocker
Last updated on Apr 20 2001
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